tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12216066.post114308380756901414..comments2023-04-11T09:37:06.122-04:00Comments on NY Teacher: Leaving ESLMs. Mhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07155034683547876756noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12216066.post-50962503928665273302009-06-05T20:06:23.728-04:002009-06-05T20:06:23.728-04:00I am a monolingual American born mother who is cau...I am a monolingual American born mother who is caught in an ESL-IEP predicament and wonder if you can help me navigate out of it? I am very concerned about my monolingual English-speaking son adopted from Russia almost 6 years ago who has been unable to test out of ESL via the NYSESLAT. He receives pull-out speech/language therapy 2x week, AIS for reading 3x week, plus ESL 5x a week. He is in 5th grade and missing too much class time. I have been begging to take him out of ESL for 3 years to no avail. Can you clarify the process you went through to get E out of ESL as her case sounds very similar. I am not familiar with terms you refer to such as type 3, x-coding, and Caps. My son has an IEP for speech/language, but the Committee for Special Ed (CSE) group for him is adamant that they can do nothing to help get him leave ESL. As his mother, I know in my heart that the ESL classes are not helping enough to justify the lost class time. He clearly has a language delay/disability that has nothing to do with ESL. Hespeaks only English, no Russian or any other language, and is not exposed to any language other than English at home. He is bright, athletic, conscientious, good in math, has good social skills, but has a moderate language delay due to early life deficits. His father and I have begun to seek legal advice, but fear we will not find anyone knowledgeable about this area of law. Any light you can shed would be very much appreciated!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16491000318259278102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12216066.post-14210220856516293552008-08-30T12:49:00.000-04:002008-08-30T12:49:00.000-04:00Rose,thanks for commenting. I do understand that t...Rose,<BR/>thanks for commenting. I do understand that they Type III and other Cap adjustments are necessary but for the simplicity in explaining it's like checking a box. You seems to be very knowledgeable in this area. In my school (both I have worked in) no one (NO ONE!) had heard of X-coding. Even the special ed people. How is that possible? The only kids that we have now x-coded at our school are a small handful who really are not ELLs. Ok, they are on paper according to the DOE but in my professional opinion they are not learners of English. These are kids who are now in fourth or fifth grade, have been identified as ELLs since Kindergarten, have repeated several grades and so are now at 6 or 7 years of ESL service. They are far below grade level in reading and writing because of a learning disability that they may have or what ever the case is. I'm not saying that special ed kids can't also be ELLs but in these cases they are not. <BR/><BR/>Of course I do still give them the NYSESLAT and they all score at a very low beginner level. To not improve on the NYSESLAT after 6-7 years of service is a clear indication that something is wrong.Ms. Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07155034683547876756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12216066.post-37427880877030514102008-08-29T20:56:00.000-04:002008-08-29T20:56:00.000-04:00It as not as simple as checking a box on an IEP. F...It as not as simple as checking a box on an IEP. First a type 3 must be done requesting monolingual with no esl. You can file this as her esl provider. The type 3 must get approved and until the change is made in CAP making her x coded she must get services. When you get the date that the type 3 was done entered then you can stop servicing. <BR/><BR/>What seems to be the problem in your school is the program model. In a push in program the students miss nothing and get small group attention. <BR/><BR/>Be careful about x coding a lot of kids. Remeber they can transfer to other schools where there are better program models. When you x code realize that these students are still ELLs! They must still take NYSESLAT. They just do not require servicing which in the right setting could be small group instruction.rose50538https://www.blogger.com/profile/11168903187226006988noreply@blogger.com